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Author:  Tiger74 [ Wed Mar 21, 2012 3:56 am ]
Post subject:  RV-bootcamp 2070_8702 On target?

I have noticed a few times lately that the S2 descriptors that seem to "pop-out-of-nowhere" during session usually end up being the apparent main/best descriptors at the site. Is that sort of the way you guys have learned how to trust the data... even before you get your feedback? Anyway.. do I seem like I'm on target as much as I can expect to be at this point? Been about three weeks or so... here's a link to the target photo. Any feedback appreciated.
http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z216/rvrobot/9.jpg
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Author:  Brett Stuart [ Wed Mar 21, 2012 4:05 am ]
Post subject:  Re: RV-bootcamp 2070_8702 On target?

Never use S2 descriptors in analysis. Ever. They do not belong on your Site Template.

Structure looks good, but your [x] archetype in the freehand sketch looks... what is that an archetype of? If it's a right angle (which I think it's supposed to be) then commit to it. Don't keep doodling afterwards. You are probably moving too slow.

Have you finished the DvDs? If not, you should move on to the next one.

One last thing, you need to push for more dimension descriptors in S2. Four is the bare, just scraping by, minimum. You want more.

Author:  jayvee [ Wed Mar 21, 2012 4:18 am ]
Post subject:  Re: RV-bootcamp 2070_8702 On target?

Greetings Tiger,

You seem to have quite a bit of AOLs, especially in S4 and as your session progresses. This could be your thinking mind infiltrating the sessions, seeking closure on your word data, thereby corrupting your data/accuracy. Continue to stay focused on structure, write the words down and move on, do not allow your mind to dwell on the data you are perceiving. Easier said than done, but thats why its called practice.

Author:  Dozaemon [ Wed Mar 21, 2012 5:07 am ]
Post subject:  Re: RV-bootcamp 2070_8702 On target?

The only things I would add that have not been mentioned are the following:

1. Be sure you are declaring all your AOLs properly. Look at S4[X], for example.

2. Probe for more data on your stage fours. It looks like you have a lot more space for data collection. Use it.

3. Be sure you have the tip of your pen down in a column when you are collecting data in stage four. I do not see any marks in your EI column on S4[B]. How do we know there is not any EI data there?

Other than that, I definitely agree that the rest of your structure, save for all the aforementioned comments, looks pretty good.

Author:  Tiger74 [ Wed Mar 21, 2012 5:41 am ]
Post subject:  Re: RV-bootcamp 2070_8702 On target?

Thanks a lot ya'll. I didn't realize it was ok to put the pen on the paper in s4 columns, that'll help i bet. And yes Doze.. I'm still working on filling up 2/3 of the page in my S4. It's starting to get better, especially on the session i just finished a few minutes ago. I think I nailed it, especially the S3 analytical sketch of [X], and [A], check it out if you would. I'll put a link here when I get it up.
http://www.rvcommunity.net/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=7927
AOl's..., working on declaring them properly. I'm about to start DVD3.

-Jeff

Author:  Chartless [ Wed Mar 21, 2012 9:30 am ]
Post subject:  Re: RV-bootcamp 2070_8702 On target?

A little clarification is in order:

The sensory and dimensional data from the S and D columns on your S4 data sheets are not S2 data. They are S4 data. Include them in your data summary, and use them in your analysis, but do not write them on your site template. They just clutter it up.

And yes, you should write a summary of the data after you finish your site template.

As for your question about trusting the data: if the structure is flawed, so is the data.

Author:  Brett Stuart [ Wed Mar 21, 2012 9:54 am ]
Post subject:  Re: RV-bootcamp 2070_8702 On target?

Ah, good catch Chartless. I didn't realize Tiger was calling stage 4 S/D descriptors S2. Very different things.

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